SEO

Google’s Gary Illyes says keywords in URLs are an “incredibly small signal” and hyphens should separate words

Developing

The report is second-hand: no transcript was provided and the only verbatim language is the "incredibly small signal" phrase.

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In 60 seconds

  • Google posted the first video in a series called "The Non-Canonical Cabinet", with Gary Illyes and Cherry Prommawin discussing URLs.
  • Illyes called keywords in a URL or domain an "incredibly small signal" for rankings.
  • He said hyphens, not underscores, should separate keywords in the URL path, and that Google can detect spamming in URLs.
  • Topic titles also mention long URLs, Punycode and percent-encoding, with no detail in the article.

Impact Layer

What changed
A Google engineer restated, on video, how little URL keywords matter.
Why it matters
Teams still rewrite URLs for keywords, which can create redirect work for little return.
Who is affected
SEOs, developers and site owners planning URL structures or migrations.
Martech stack area
SEO & Search, CMS
Stack impact
Do not change working URLs only to add keywords. For new URLs, use readable words separated by hyphens.
Business impact
Low Second-hand summary by Search Engine Roundtable with no transcript or timestamps; the long-URL question and encoding points appear only as topic titles.
Related vendors
What to watch
Further episodes of the series and Google's official URL documentation.

Barry Schwartz reported on Search Engine Roundtable on October 14, 2026 that Google posted the first video in a series called “The Non-Canonical Cabinet”.

What was said

  • Gary Illyes said keywords in a URL or domain are an “incredibly small signal” for rankings.
  • He said hyphens, not underscores, should separate keywords in the URL path.
  • He said Google can detect spamming in URLs.
  • Cherry Prommawin joined the discussion of how Google Search handles URLs.

Topics listed

Whether URLs are a ranking factor, hyphens versus underscores and emojis. Long URLs, Punycode and percent-encoding appear only as topic titles in the article.

Not stated

A transcript or timestamps, how small the signal is, whether the long-URL question is answered, the video’s upload date and whether more episodes are planned. The article notes the topics were covered before.

Our read

Do not run a URL project for ranking. Use clear words and hyphens on new pages, and leave live URLs alone.

Sources

  1. Search Engine Roundtable: Google Search On URLs, Ranking Factor, Hyphens vs Underscores & Emojis (opens in a new tab) News report ·

    Source for who said what and what is not covered.

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